https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1730772 Sun, 7 Jun 2026 17:13:27 GMT Thu, 16 Mar 2023 18:35:41 GMT Copyright © 2023 Institute of Highway Engineers https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1730772 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1730772 Thu, 16 Mar 2023 15:46:17 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1730785 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1730785 here. If the junction is coned/barriered through they can't physically make the turn, so there's no real need for no left/right turn signs. Approach signing should be the 7001 with arrow subplate as you say plus a "ROAD CLOSED AHEAD" sign. If you want to be a bit more informative, the leeway in S13-9 would allow you to install "ROAD CLOSED ON LEFT/RIGHT AHEAD" signs. Remember we're no longer constrained to what was permitted on the old P7010.1 working drawing. As for the no entry, again I'd only expect to see it if the junction was open and traffic might be tempted to enter the road. Look at it this way, if the road was being permanently closed, (typically by being kerbed through), a local authority wouldn't also erect no entry signs would they? So why are they needed in a temporary situation where the closure provision is made by cones, 7105 barriers and a "ROAD CLOSED" sign (the latter for the hard of thinking?!). Remember that the legal meaning of a 7105 is "Position of barrier to mark length of road closed to traffic..." If you installed no left/right turn and no entry signs your order would have to say you were closing X Road, not permitting traffic to make a left/right turn into it and also not permitting traffic to enter it. Wouldn't that be triplicating the message rather pointlessly? Although I wish you good luck in convincing some local authority officers of that, given how some of them are stuck in their ways. All your order really needs to say is you are closing X Road. Appropriately signed, everything else falls into place from that.]]> Thu, 16 Mar 2023 16:42:00 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1730806 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1730806 Thu, 16 Mar 2023 18:12:46 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1730816 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1730816 Thu, 16 Mar 2023 19:35:41 GMT