https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1781702 Sun, 7 Jun 2026 17:11:58 GMT Mon, 3 Mar 2025 17:08:11 GMT Copyright © 2025 Institute of Highway Engineers https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1781702 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1781702 Tue, 4 Jun 2024 12:18:30 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1781703 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1781703 Tue, 4 Jun 2024 12:46:34 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1781708 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1781708 Tue, 4 Jun 2024 13:26:53 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1781878 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1781878
Anyone know of enforcement difficulties with this approach?]]> Wed, 5 Jun 2024 09:11:44 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1785543 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1785543 Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:16:12 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1807237 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1807237 Wed, 29 Jan 2025 21:53:31 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1810754 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1810754 Although the definition of a controlled area in TSRGD is a length of carriageway 'adjacent to a signal-controlled crossing facility and [that] has a zig-zag line marked along each of its edges', TSRGD Chapter 3 of the Traffic Signs Manual makes it clear that yellow lines must be omitted at the crossing point as well as through the zigzags and that it remains possible to enforce a prohibition, as long as the relevant traffic order provides for it to apply throughout this interruption. My question was, where is there a provision that allows such enforcement to take place if the yellow lines have been omitted at a crossing point where zigzags are not allowed to be used, thereby leaving no visible indication to drivers that parking is not allowed?
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The answer seems to be that there isn't. The lines must be continuous through the crossing, as Simon Morgan pointed out.

However, the question about parking in between zigzags (on the actual crossing itself) was interesting because the crossing isn't included within the "controlled area". So, where do we find this nugget of information? Looks like it's TSRGD Sch 14, Pt 5 "Movement at Section 25 crossings" (a Section 25 crossing is a Zebra or Puffin crossing). Parallel crossings are covered by Sch 14, Pt 1, S 21 "Significance of stripes and other road markings at Parallel crossings and in Parallel controlled areas".

Phew! Glad that's sorted.]]> Mon, 3 Mar 2025 17:49:00 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1810788 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1810788
Yes, I skirted around the issue of parking on the crossing itself, relying on TSM but you're quite right, paragraph 1 in S14-5 refers to the whole of the Section 25 crossing, even though by paragraph 3 we're back to just not being allowed to stop on the zigzags.]]> Mon, 3 Mar 2025 18:08:11 GMT