https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1782367 Sun, 7 Jun 2026 17:13:03 GMT Fri, 14 Jun 2024 10:42:14 GMT Copyright © 2024 Institute of Highway Engineers https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1782367 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1782367 Mon, 10 Jun 2024 14:08:42 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1782368 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1782368 Mon, 10 Jun 2024 14:10:12 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1782374 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1782374 Mon, 10 Jun 2024 14:25:00 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1782384 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1782384 We try to ensure, through criteria, that less than 50% of the properties in an area have drives to minimise the issue (firstly) and then we have put the bays across drives to ensure that they still need a permit to park in the area. We would avoid H-Bars as they shouldn't be needed. If someone blocks the drive they either don't have a permit (issue PCN) or have a permit (we can identify the resident that is causing the problem). I would have to check what my team have in there Ts&Cs, but we will have a abuse of the permit could result in us removing the permit etc which shoudl resolve permit holder issues blocking drives.......]]> Mon, 10 Jun 2024 15:21:19 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1782390 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1782390
Instead, we would install DY across driveways but in consultation with home owners - they sometimes prefer to leave it unrestricted so that they can park across their own driveway. That comes with some risk to themselves, of course.

Until a change to the TRO can be made I'd be inclined to do as the photo.

]]> Mon, 10 Jun 2024 16:02:25 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1782400 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1782400 As well as minimising signs, operating the scheme with this type of layout also means that you don't have to change the TRO if a new driveway is put in or moved / removed.
Although now that the Traffic Signs Manual has been updated to allow APMs to be used across driveways between parking bays, there's probably less of a reason to have APMs within parking bays.]]> Mon, 10 Jun 2024 16:13:32 GMT https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1782985 https://members.theihe.org/forums/posts.aspx?group=214541&topic=1782985
A. Harris sums up the issues we have and yes this rarely poses a problem. I should have added that it is permit and 2 hour parking so at times non permit users park here. Yes, agreed, the matter comes about as more and more convert their front gardens to parking and driveways. In this situation alone we would end up with a TRO that would need to amend approx 10 locations to provide gaps in this street as historically more driveways have been built. I believe the previous authority (merger of 4 councils in 2019) did put the bays across the driveways in any case.

A Sturrock and S King -- you are quite correct that this is not ideal but this has come about historically.
A TRO on something like this is a very low priority, however in new locations we do not allow this to happen as we have in our T&C's for new dropped kerb applications there is also a requirement for customers to pay for new TRO parking restriction amendments if required, so hopefully now only the historic locations have this problem.

In terms of the APM we are minded to allow it as we would in non-bay areas. In our case, the customer make the application and pays for the APM as long as it meets criteria.]]> Fri, 14 Jun 2024 11:42:14 GMT