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<description><![CDATA[Hi All - one of our member authorities has contacted us saying that they use salt wicks (hessian sacks filled with salt) in situations where they have running water on the network.  They are looking to understand whether or not this is common practice and/or whether there is any best practice advice/guidance that can be shared about this ?

I am aware that some other authorities do utilise salt wicks in certain temporary situations where they have identified water flowing onto main roads from adjacent ground etc but I do not know how widespread a practice this is and I am not aware of any guidance/advice that has been issued about it.

As always therefore, any advice / experience you can share would be very much appreciated.

Adrian R.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Hi Adrian. This isn't something I'm aware we've used in Devon before, certainly not something we use at the moment. We are, however, having problems with run-off currently, as I'm sure many others are too, and so would be keen to hear more about the effectiveness of this as potential short-term solution. ]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2024 13:32:53 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Hi Paul, Thanks for the reply and you are definitely not alone in currently experiencing problems with run-off, although I'm still sorry to hear it.  My experience is that some authorities deploy these salt wicks temporarily at specific locations when they are made aware (from Police Reports, other third party reports or their own inspections, patrols and salting vehicle drivers etc) of specific problems arising from water flowing onto the highway,  negating the usual salt treatments and causing ice to form.  Clearly, it is really an emergency measure employed for road safety reasons and constitutes rather a 'blunt tool', with little or no control over salt concentrations on the road surface and/or (potentially worth noting for environmental reasons) in the run-off from the road.  However, my understanding and experience is that it can be successful in preventing dangerous conditions from arising at those locations when other treatments (perhaps multiple repeat treatment etc) wouldn't be sufficient and/or practicable.  Personally, and in the absence of anything else that is practical and more effective I think using salt wicks in these circumstances can constitute good practice.  As winter flooding is seemingly set to become an increasingly widespread repeating problem for the foreseeable future, authority response to these conditions could potentially be something that the next version of the NWSRG Practical Guide ought to consider.  The review process for the next iteration of the guidance will be starting shortly, and it will therefore be great if other people can contribute here, providing their experiences and thoughts on this - and/or on alternative actions in these situations.  Thanks again for the response, Adrian]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[hi, Adrian, it is something i never used  in my operational duties(I'd never used the term wicks before). rather the reverse placing  impermeable bunds to prevent surface water flowing across the highway. <br />It seems a potential solution albeit with the bluntness you describe. <br />Dealing with heavy icing as a result of run-off would normally see a large spot salt blast at the location with temporary 'Ice' warning signs to warn mortoists but this can only be a very short term  situation and investigation and dealing with the drainage problem has to be a priority<br />In the Police Road Death guidance drainage issues  is one of the  considerations to be consideraed if a fatality occured ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Adrian,<br />We use them on a lot of our known run off sites and other areas in Wiltshire and have done for many years, we have them in use at present and find them very effective if placed and set up correctly. <br />Happy for you to make contact if you want to discuss more.<br />Simon]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<div class="small" style="font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: -6px;">Quote:</div>
<div class="ForumQuote"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Originally posted by R. Hayes:</span><br />
hi, Adrian, it is something i never used  in my operational duties(I'd never used the term wicks before). rather the reverse placing  impermeable bunds to prevent surface water flowing across the highway. <br />
It seems a potential solution albeit with the bluntness you describe. <br />
Dealing with heavy icing as a result of run-off would normally see a large spot salt blast at the location with temporary 'Ice' warning signs to warn mortoists but this can only be a very short term  situation and investigation and dealing with the drainage problem has to be a priority<br />
In the Police Road Death guidance drainage issues  is one of the  considerations to be consideraed if a fatality occured </div>
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Thanks Richard - I totally agree but my experience is that it isn't always possible or practicable to stop water flowing onto the highway from adjacent ground and, as you know, highway drainage systems aren't typically designed to cope with those situations.&nbsp; Salt wicks (along with 'blasting' the site and the use of ice warning signs plus potentially also cones and/or even TTL) are, I think, useful tools to have in the toolbox to deal with these situations and I myself am aware of situations where they have definitely made a significant difference in keeping sections of road ice free in these circumstances. Adrian&nbsp;&nbsp;]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Hi Simon - Thanks for your post and yes please, I would really like to touch base with you about this this.  Would it be OK if I also passed your name to the Authority Member who first raised this with us?  I'm sure he would find your experience with this really helpful.  Thanks again, Adrian ]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:19:34 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<div class="small" style="font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: -6px;">Quote:</div>
<div class="ForumQuote"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Originally posted by S. Rowe:</span><br />
Adrian,<br />
We use them on a lot of our known run off sites and other areas in Wiltshire and have done for many years, we have them in use at present and find them very effective if placed and set up correctly. <br />
Happy for you to make contact if you want to discuss more.<br />
Simon</div>
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Hi Simon, could I ask where you get these from please? Do you purchase the sacks and then just fill them yourselves, or is there more to it than that?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Norfolk CC have not used these either and we're not looking to do so. Our winter service delivery contractor is advised to spot grit run off sites where necessary]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<div class="small" style="font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: -6px;">Quote:</div>
<div class="ForumQuote"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Originally posted by A. Runacres:</span><br />
Hi Simon - Thanks for your post and yes please, I would really like to touch base with you about this this.  Would it be OK if I also passed your name to the Authority Member who first raised this with us?  I'm sure he would find your experience with this really helpful.  Thanks again, Adrian </div>
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That would be fine Adrian.]]></description>
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